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Every now and then we get a call from someone who has solar installed at their home but they’re not happy. Typically this occurs when they get their “true-up” bill at the end of the year, and are shocked to see that the amount that they owe is way more than they expected! In many cases this leads them to believe that the system simply isn’t working, and now they want a third-party (like Run on Sun) to come out and evaluate the performance of their system.
Here are the three leading reasons why that bill is so high…
Although this tends to be the number one suspected reason for why the bill is so high, generally it isn’t the actual cause. Most systems are installed properly and are in operation. But every now and then we come across a system that simply isn’t working at all. That was the case with one man who was convinced that his system had never worked and that the company that installed it was simply out to cheat him. We didn’t see signs of that—the system had been installed and the overall workmanship was acceptable on the surface, so it wasn’t like someone just slapped the panels on the roof and ran away. But here’s the thing—this was an Enphase system so there should have been monitoring in place to answer the question of how well the system was working. Except that the installer had never bothered to complete the setup of the monitoring system!
When we came out we were able to access the Envoy directly, and while it could see the microinverters, it was clear that they had never produced any power—in over a year!
So how can a solar system owner prevent this? Simple—when your system goes live, make sure that the installer walks you through the operation of the system so that you can see with your own two eyes that the system is actually producing power. (This could be a readout on the inverter/monitoring system, or a spinning performance meter, or an indication that utility meter is going backwards.) Better yet, ask them up-front how will you be able to know that your system is working, and then when it goes live, make them prove it to you!
If you believe that your system isn’t working, and you live in the greater Pasadena area, give us a call at 626-793-6025, or email us to set up a service call!
This second case is actually far more likely: the system is performing, but it is not meeting your savings expectations. In our experience there are two main reasons for this: hype and over use.
One reason for this disconnect is that a dishonest sales person over-hyped the savings to be had from the system installed. For example, we have seen “savings” projections based just on the size of the system, without regard for how shaded the system was, or its orientation - to say nothing of the actual rate structure that is being used by the utility.
Shaded systems produce less energy. Systems aligned away from South will produce less energy. A utility customer on a time-of-use rate structure may well save less than one on a tiered rate structure (depending on how those rates are designed).
The point is to beware of overly simplistic savings projections. A proper analysis will factor in all of these issues to provide the best possible estimate of savings.
Even the best savings projection is predicated on future energy usage being consistent with the historical data that the solar company was given (unless increases are specifically discussed and included). While many people with solar power systems become vigilant about reducing their overall energy consumption, others go in exactly the opposite direction. Indeed, it is not uncommon to hear people say that part of why they want to “go solar” is so they can afford to run their air conditioning “more” during the summer.
Solar power systems are finite resources—they can only produce so much energy consistent with the size of the system, and most utilities limit system size to the historical energy usage average at the site. If you install solar, but then triple how much energy you use during the year, you shouldn’t be surprised if you are not saving any money!
Which leads us to the most likely culprit—there has been a failure to communicate between installer and consumer. At the root of this is Net Metering and the complexities of most energy bills. (A big part of the blame here goes to the utilities who seem determined to make their bills as complicated as possible!) Let’s provide an overview of this issue and then illustrate with a specific example.
Solar system owners - at least here in SoCal - operate under utility rules known as Net Energy Metering, or just Net Metering for short. Here is how this works: on the day when your solar power system is given “Permission to Operate” (or PTO) by the utility, your billing will shift to Net Metering (often the utility will change your meter to allow for that switch). Every day, as your system operates, you will either be exporting (selling) energy back onto the grid, or importing (purchasing) energy from the grid.
Think of it this way: you get up at 6 a.m. and it’s dark outside. You turn on some lights, the radio, coffee maker, etc. Your solar system isn’t producing anything (it’s dark outside, remember?) so you are purchasing energy from the grid. You go off to work as the sun comes up, and your system turns on. All day long, your solar system is producing energy, but there is no one there to use it—the A/C is off, the TV is off, the house is dark—so all of that excess energy is sold back to the utility. Your fancy new meter keeps track of all of that energy coming and going.
Every billing cycle the utility will look at those readings—how much energy did you sell compared to how much did you purchase—and “net” out the difference. If you were a net seller of energy, you will have a credit. If you were a net purchaser of energy you will have a balance due. But here is where some people get confused—your bill won’t ask you to pay for the energy you used that month. Typically you will only be charged for whatever “customer charge” there may be along with taxes and other fees. The bill for your energy usage (or credit, if you are so lucky) is carried forward to the next billing cycle, and the next, and the next, until you get to the anniversary of your PTO date. Now your usage will be “trued up” and you will either get a bill to pay (assuming that for the year you were a net energy purchaser) or a check (assuming you were a net energy seller, but don’t get too excited because that payment is really tiny).
Here’s the thing, depending on how much of a net energy purchaser you were, that bill could be pretty significant, in some cases well over a thousand dollars or more!
Of course, you would have been receiving bills every cycle that showed what you were accumulating (either a balance due or a credit) but since there is no related payment required, it is easy for some to overlook those bills, and if this process has never been explained—or even if it was but the consumer simply didn’t “get it” at the time—this can lead to a nasty surprise.
Bottom line - solar companies need to do a better job here in explaining how this works. (Hence this post!)
Consider a hypothetical solar system owner, let’s call him Bob. Now Bob is a smart guy, but this is the first solar power system he has ever owned. His installer explained everything to him when the system went live, but Bob was distracted by the excitement of a potentially zero bill. His system has Enphase microinverters so he has been receiving energy production emails from Enphase every month, and that looked cool, but he never attempted to reconcile his Enphase report with his utility bill (Bob’s not so big on balancing his checkbook, either). But to be fair to Bob, the Enphase report that he receives is for each calendar month, but his billing is every two months, and they aren’t calendar months; rather, they run from meter read date to meter read date (e.g., 7/28/2016 to 9/26/2016).
The good news is that Enphase has a reporting feature that allows you to enter any two dates since the system went live and receive day-by-day energy production, with the total at the end. Let’s see what we can learn when we put Bob’s billing data next to his production data from the Enphase reporting feature:
Ten months of Bob’s usage versus production
The first two columns show the start and end dates for each meter reading/billing cycle. The bought column is the amount of energy that Bob purchased from his utility. (Whoa, what happened during the latest billing cycle???) The sold column is the amount of energy that Bob sold back to his utility during that period, as reported by the utility. The next column is the amount of energy that Bob’s system produced during the dates in the billing cycle, according to the Enphase website. But wait, how can this be? In that first period, the utility says that Bob only sold 774 kWh of energy, but Enphase says his system produced nearly twice as much, 1,338 kWh!
How do we make sense of this disparity? The answer is simple: local consumption. It is important to remember that the utility has no idea how much energy Bob’s system is producing, all they see is how much energy Bob is selling back to them. So both Enphase and the utility are correct, they are just measuring different things. Enphase measures total energy produced. The utility measures energy sold to them—the difference is energy used to power Bob’s house that didn’t come from the utility; rather, it came from the solar system! In that first billing cycle, Bob’s system produced 1,338 kWh and of that, 774 kWh were sold back to the utility, meaning 564 kWh of that production were used to power his house. And that means that Bob’s total consumption for the month is the amount that he bought from his utility, 1,402 kWh, plus the solar production that was consumed locally, 564 kWh, for a total consumption of 1,966 kWh. Applying that reasoning to the rest of the data shows that Bob’s overall consumption has increased in every billing cycle except one, with a whopper over the holidays! (Maybe too many holiday lights?)
The production data shows that Bob’s system has been performing appropriately - increasing over the summer months, decreasing over the winter months. Here’s a graph that puts that all into perspective:
The blue represents the actual energy produced each day. The gray line is the predicted system production (in this case modeled using the CSI calculator). Over the lifetime of the system, the maximum amount of energy produced in a day was 29.7 kWh (42% above what was predicted for that day) and on the day when this graph was created, the system produced 15.7 kWh.
Generally, the performance peaks well above what is expected (particularly in the late June through early November period). But once we get into mid-November things deteriorate—not because of a fault in the system, but because of abnormally wet weather here in SoCal (as we head into a 1″/hour rain storm today!). For much of the past two months, actual production has fallen well below what was predicted, with just 77% of predicted being realized so far this month. And yet, despite all of that, overall the system has still produced 99% of its estimated lifetime production.
This points out a couple of key things to me: First, you just gotta love the data that is available through the Enphase monitoring system. It allows system owners and installers alike to have near-real time access to system performance, as well as to review long-term data to discern trends and uncover patterns. Priceless!
Second, we as solar professionals need to do a much better job of informing our clients so that they know what to expect. (I’m leaving out the hype-sters who couldn’t care less what the consumer knows as long as they make a sale.)
We live with this stuff every day but for most of our clients, this is all brand new, and confusing. We need to take the time to explain how this works so that they can understand the actual value of their investment.
@Sunnyday –
Back in the day, we built an entire series of spreadsheets for each utility in our service area. Those spreadsheets encoded the details of all of the specific rate schedules that we had encountered. When we came across a new one, we built a new spreadsheet.
We would then take the monthly usage for the potential client from the past year and plug it into our spreadsheet. Usually our calculation matched the utility within pennies. We could then apply the monthly anticipated production of the proposed PV array to the past usage, and see what the new bill would be.
We operated that way for many years, confident that it was a reasonable, and reasonably accurate way to model savings - particularly compared to people who just said, “Oh, you will save $0.25/kWh produced!”
Alas, things are way more complicated today, particularly in SCE territory where all new solar clients are switched to time-of-use rates, which means that the quantity of energy produced has to be applied to when that energy is produced. Nowadays we rely on getting hourly interval data (via UtilityAPI) and we use Energy Toolbase to incorporate that hourly usage data against hourly production data, and then model that against the appropriate rate structure. Again, we believe that is the most honest approach we can offer.
You might be interested in the three-part series that we are working on now that talks about these issues. You can read it here.
Thanks for the comment!
Jim
I am very sorry to hear of your difficulties. It is certainly the responsibility of your installer to make sure that your system is fully operational. Whether they have an obligation to pay you for the energy shortfall is a function of your contract – if it includes a performance guarantee, then they may have to pay you.
If your contractor can’t - or won’t - solve your problem, please let me know. There are plenty of conscientious solar installers in Florida, and I’m sure we can find someone to help make things right.
Good luck!
JimI am sorry that you are having so much trouble with your solar billing. Without know what you signed, I am really unable to provide much assistance. (You may need to consult with a lawyer to get out of the lease, if indeed that is what you assumed.) Given that we are in California, I don’t have a lot of contacts in New Jersey, but I will ask around and see if I can find someone local who can try to explain your bill and your obligations to you better.
Best of luck.
JimThank you for the kind words, I’m glad you found this helpful.
I am sorry to hear of your plight – from who did you lease the system? If it was sized and installed correctly, even as a lease, you should not be spending more than before you got solar. Are you sure the system is working? Without real data it is hard to give you more direction.
As for stopping payments on the lease, you should consult with a lawyer before you do that. You don’t want to damage your credit rating on top of your other troubles.
Good luck - JimI’m glad this was helpful. Here’s the explanation, it is called “anti-islanding” and it is an important safety feature. Think of it this way - let’s imagine that the grid is down because a tree fell over a power line and snapped it. The utility de-energizes the grid surrounding the fallen wire and sends a crew to re-string it. But, there is your solar system producing power and possibly feeding excess energy back to the grid… where you have now energized that fallen wire that was supposed to be off! Yikes.
So to prevent you from being that island of energy, your inverter(s) will shut off when the grid goes away.
Solar systems with backup storage have to include a transfer switch that isolates your microgrid from the main grid in order to meet code.
Hope that helps…
JimGoGreen8 -
I am very sorry to hear of your issues - sadly, as the comments above attest, it is not at all uncommon.
I will contact you directly.
Jim
Thanks for the kind words. It is hard to judge the claims without knowing your actual usage, the projected production from the proposed systems, and the relevant rate structure in play. (In other words, it is complicated, which is why we use EnergyToolbase to do those calculations for us.)
Are you on a tiered rate structure? What is the LCOE of the solar systems being proposed? If you are on a tiered rate structure, and the bottom tier is cheaper than the LCOE, then it makes no financial sense to “zero out” your bill.
Good luck. JimI don’t know how things work in TX, but generally if you build a home in a city area, you will be required to be tied into the local utilities. You could certainly size a PV system large enough to cover most, if not all of your usage, but you would need a storage system as well to cover night time, as well as stormy days. And you would still end up paying access fees to the utility, even if you rarely pull energy from the grid.
Designing a storage system to support you during an outage like what is going on in TX right now is a complicated process. While a home of the size you describe will likely use 35-45 kWh/day - more if you have lots of toys - in an emergency you are not going to try and power all of that, unless money is no object.
Instead, you would want to pare down to just the absolutely necessary loads: refrigerator, lights, maybe a space heater if the gas goes out.
Good luck!
Jim
Vickson -
I cannot really advise you directly, since I’m unfamiliar with the details of the market in New York. What I would suggest is you contact an installer who is NABCEP certified. Here’s a link to the list of such installers in New York state:
https://www.nabcep.org/nabcep-professionals/?last_name=&country=USA&state=NY&certification_type=PV
Get multiple quotes, and ask a lot of questions. Ask for references and talk to them. Take your time, this is a big investment and you want to get it right.
Good luck!
Jim
Thank you for your kind words. I agree completely that unscrupulous salespeople - and especially the companies that hire them - are a blight on our industry.
I don’t know where you are or when you signed your contract, but for the past few years in California solar contracts have to include a disclosure document that identifies the total cost of the project - including all financing costs - over the lifetime of the project. That doesn’t solve all problems, but it is a start.
Feel free to contact me directly.
Best regards…
JimDarren -
Thank you for the kind words. This post drives more traffic than pretty much every other post I’ve written in 12 years of writing this blog - clearly it hits home with a lot of people.
The issue around NEM 3.0 in California is nothing less than an existential threat to the industry. That is why hundreds of people stayed on hold for hours to tell the CPUC that this was going in the wrong direction. We need to make it easier and more rewarding for everyone to add solar. Hopefully they got the message!
Best regards…
Jim$60k sounds pretty high for 20 panels and one battery. What percentage of your produced energy will be exported? The battery will help with that, since you will charge the battery before exporting surplus energy, but if that percentage is high, you might do better with a smaller system. (It is not uncommon for a solar power system to export 50% of its production or more.)
I know very little about the deregulated mess that is the Texas energy market, but I found this article interesting: Going solar in Texas without net metering. I don’t know if you have access to any of the four retail electricity providers that do offer net metering, but if so, you might want to switch to one of them.
Best of luck!
Glad you liked the post!
If you are in SCE territory I don’t believe they will let you switch back, but if you can where you are, absolutely do so.
Adding more panels is an option, but you might also want to focus on how you are using energy - can you switch high energy loads out of the peak TOU period? For example, if you have an EV, program it to not charge during that peak period (in SCE territory, 4-9 p.m.) - that will help a lot. Dishwashers and clothes washers also generally have a delayed start option that can be helpful.
Best regards…
JimI would note that in the first instance it would make sense to ask these questions of the company that you picked to do the install!
That said, let me see if I can answer some of these. I don’t know anything about your usage, so it is impossible to say whether it is “worth it” to add solar. You said 12 panels, so if they are 400 Watt panels, that is a 4.8 kW system, that on average would produce around 7,200 kWh/year. If it is covering 70% of your usage, that would mean you are using roughly 10,300 kWh/year - is that correct? The price seems reasonable, coming in at $3.43/Watt - assuming 400 W panels.
Because you will be under the current net metering rules - and a time-of-use rate - energy you export to the grid during the middle of the day is compensated at a lower rate than energy you import from the grid during peak rates at 4-9 p.m. (The only way around that is to add an energy storage system - i.e., a battery - but that would nearly double to cost of the system.)
Good luck…
Jim
I’m sorry you are not seeing any benefit (negative benefit??) from having solar - have you spoken to the installer? I would expect mid-Winter in PA would be fairly minimal production, which 300 kWh clearly is for an 8 kW system. I would go back and look at the proposal that you were given - did it have estimated monthly production figures? If so, you might compare the 300 kWh to what was modeled. Perhaps the 50% reduction isn’t predicted for every month, but for the year as a whole? In which case, you might see greater than 50% reductions in the peak summer months.
In any event, give the installer a call and see what they will do for you.
Best of luck…
Jim
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